[iDC] Response to Patricia Clough's Vimeo Video http://vimeo.com/6797762
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Mon Oct 19 01:00:19 UTC 2009
Hey Andrew Delighted to meet up again. Will you be at the conference?
As for governance I have been using the term in relation to capitalism
and the market influenced by Foucault's treatment of neoliberalim and
biopolitics in the last 3 sets of English translated lectures.
I think the lectures show some difference from the way Deleuze read them in
terms of control So I am working on that and I am forever engaged
with measure statistics, probability and beyond. More coming at the
In a message dated 10/18/2009 7:50:41 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
aherman at wlu.ca writes:
First, let me say a hearty hello to Patricia. It seems fitting that we
would reconnect digitally about digital labor after all these years.
Second, I wondering if Patricia can clarify her statement about the
difference between capital/capitalism/and capitalist "governance". What does your
understanding of "governance" have in common with the Focauldian concept
of governmentality? You mention "biopower" fleetingly in your ruminations on
digital labor but, suprisingly, you don;t mention it again when you speak
of measurement and control of affect and "lifiness".
It seems to me that governance is rather different than governmentality
but I would be curious to hear what you think before holding forth.
Second, I am also curious about Patricia's stated obsession with
measurement. How is possible to measure surplus value or exploitation when one moves
from material to immaterial labor? Was it ever possible in the first
place? If you recall, Marxist political economy kind of ran off the rails in the
70's trying to find the holy grail of measuring surplus value (i.e. Pierio
Sraffa, etc). Why bother?
P.S. BTW, the bathroom scene was perfect.
Andrew Herman, Ph. D.
Associate Professor and Chairperson
Department of Communication Studies
Graduate Program in Cultural Analysis and Social Theory
Wilfrid Laurier University
Waterloo, Ontario N2L 3C5
519 884-1970 x3693
"I am not a benevolent God."
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