[iDC] Internet Tough Guys

Gere, Charlie c.gere at lancaster.ac.uk
Sun May 20 05:59:50 EDT 2007


Surely that must be 1,332 to include the person who sends in the light bulb joke post about the topic

(no hang on, it must be 1,333, to include the person who sends in the post pointing about about the person sending in the light bulb joke post... no, wait...)

-----Original Message-----
From: idc-bounces at mailman.thing.net on behalf of Chris Byrne
Sent: Sat 5/19/2007 5:17 PM
To: Edward Cherlin
Cc: IDC list
Subject: Re: [iDC] Internet Tough Guys
 
Apologies if you've heard this one before...

Chris

---

Q: How many internet mail list members does it take to change a light  
bulb?

A: 1,331:

* 1 to successfully change the light bulb and to post to the mail  
list that the light bulb has been changed
* 14 to share similar experiences of changing light bulbs and how the  
light bulb could have been changed differently.
* 7 to caution about the dangers of changing light bulbs.
* 27 to point out spelling/grammar errors in posts about changing  
light bulbs.
* 53 to flame the spell checkers
* 156 to write to the list administrator complaining about the light  
bulb discussion and its inappropriateness to this mail list.
* 41 to correct spelling in the spelling/grammar flames.
* 109 to post that this list is not about light bulbs and to please  
take this email exchange to alt.lite.bulb
* 203 to demand that cross posting to alt.grammar, alt.spelling and  
alt.punctuation about changing light bulbs be stopped.
* 111 to defend the posting to this list saying that we all use light  
bulbs and therefore the posts **are** relevant to this mail list.
* 306 to debate which method of changing light bulbs is superior,  
where to buy the best light bulbs, what brand of light bulbs work  
best for this technique, and what brands are faulty.
* 27 to post URLs where one can see examples of different light bulbs
* 14 to post that the URLs were posted incorrectly, and to post  
corrected URLs.
* 3 to post about links they found from the URLs that are relevant to  
this list which makes light bulbs relevant to this list.
* 33 to concatenate all posts to date, then quote them including all  
headers and footers, and then add "Me Too."
* 12 to post to the list that they are unsubbing because they cannot  
handle the light bulb controversy.
* 19 to quote the "Me Too's" to say, "Me Three."
* 4 to suggest that posters request the light bulb FAQ.
* 1 to propose new alt.change.lite.bulb newsgroup.
* 47 to say this is just what alt.physic.cold_fusion was meant for,  
leave it here.
* 143 votes for a new list alt.lite.bulb.


On 18 May 2007, at 00:08, Edward Cherlin wrote:

> The principle long known on Usenet is simply, "Please do not feed the
> troll." (Try it in Google.) This reminds people that they are getting
> themselves into trouble, with a touch of humor. Nobody ever responds,
> "Who you callin' a troll?" If they don't get a response, they go away.
>
> Everybody needs to be part of this solution. If you can't restrain
> yourself from replying, and thus feeding the frenzy, then you become
> part of the precipitate.
>
> On 5/17/07, Trebor Scholz <trebor at thing.net> wrote:
>> On the list of the Association for Internet Researchers Alex Halavais
>> pointed to the article How To Keep Hostile Jerks From Taking Over  
>> Your
>> Online Community, which relates to our exchange about Kathy Sierra's
>> case and the Bloggers Code of Conduct. Do you feel that it's  
>> possible to
>> keep trolls from taking over?
>> http://mailman.thing.net/pipermail/idc/2007-April/002422.html
>>
>> best,
>> Trebor
>> http://tinyurl.com/yoxws7
>> ==
>>

<snip!>


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