[iDC] iDC Digest, Vol 34, Issue 43

Fri Aug 31 16:55:36 UTC 2007

Andrew
Enjoyed your comic duel with Stephen Colbert, you parry well.
Putting elitism aside for a moment, can I question your take on the  
internet and how it pays. Surely the shift to network life is more  
than just a new reliance on computers and technology? My own  
experience is that once you begin to live 'in the net' then what you  
thought of as predictable linear relationships between cause and  
effect develop into something more difficult to control. To give out  
in one direction and receive back from a totally different direction  
is not unusual. Giving your art to the net and receiving payment from  
advertising seems not inappropriate to me. Who knows what other  
unpredictable ways to be paid will arise over the next few years?
Secondly on your objection to network news and the dangers of cherry  
picking facts. It's an ongoing debate I know, but as I see it, no  
news source is truly independent and without an agenda. That includes  
our beloved BBC. For plenty of sound thinking on this see reporters  
Jake Lynch and Annabel McGoldrick on www.peacejournaism.org. This is  
not an argument for relativity - for saying that one truth is as good  
as another. But it is a careful analysis of mainstream news that  
demonstrates that by framing and prioritising news, we always betray  
an agenda. It could be that the cruder examples of this on the  
internet will train us to be on the look out for that everywhere. And  
make us aware that we choose our bias as others choose theirs.
Indra Adnan

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> Hi everyone -
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> Finally I've been fingered. "You Sir," A finger-pointing Stephen
> Colbert nailed me on his Colbert Report earlier this month, "you're
> just an elitist, Sir." But I fingered him back --  getting the
> champion of the "internets" to publicly confess his online naughtiness
> habit and his support of the Viacom suit against YouTube.
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> Stephen Colbert wasn't the only mainstream media journalist to claim
> I'm an elitist. "Etes-vous Elitiste?" I was asked by Les Echos, the
> French version of the Financial Times. Emily Bell suggested something
> similar in a walloping debate on Guardian Unlimited.  But it's the
> French who really seem to get CULT. I've even been christened
> "l'Ant?christ de la Silicon Valley" by Liberation, the French leftist
> daily.	If right and left wing French media are both accusing me of
> being an elitist, then I really must be doing something right.
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> In real life, of course, I'm neither un elitiste nor l'antichrist.
> Want proof? Come and hear me talk in September. I'll be in England and
> Germany in the first half of the month, then Canada and Holland in the
> last week. I hope you'll be around to catch me in the flesh and get me
> to sign a copy of CULT. The schedule is below:
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> 09/04 Royal Society for the Arts, London (6.00 pm)
> 09/05 Toward a Social Science of Web 2.0, University of York (6.00 pm)
> -- in debate with Charles Leadbeater
> 09/06 Frontline Club, London (7.30 pm) -- introduced by Richard
> Sambrooke, director of BBC's Global News
> 09/07 IJP Alumni Conference, Bonn (noon)
> 09/07 Watershed Media Center, 25th Anniversary Celebration, Bristol
> (7.00 pm)
> 09/20 J. Walter Thompson's Digital Forum, New York City (3.00 pm)
> 09/24 Vidfest, Vancouver (10.20 am)
> 09/27 Crossmedia Picnic, Amsterdam (10.30 am) -- in debate with David
> Weinberger
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> Really hope to see you at one of these events.
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> v.best,
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